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>" After a lot of researched I was quite surprised that the mac was the cheapest option. So not always an Apple tax."

Apple has always been the most cost effective choice for the value you get going all the way back to the Apple II, it's just that the floor of that cost has always been high. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a just a fanboy one way or the other.



That's true only for the entry level macs. My M4 Mac Mini has the best Performance/value. But my workstation laptop with 32 cores, 96GB DDR5, Nvidia GPU costs lesser than Macs with lesser performance; not to mention I upgraded the RAM post purchase.


It really depends what you factor in as value, because wintel laptops like you described tend to require noise canceling headphones when working on them.


True, can't beat current Apple chips on power efficiency.


RAM upgrade possibility has a downside though - very low RAM bandwidth, which is highly relevant today if you want to run local LLMs


If you're happy with the base model, then Apple has a great value/price ratio, but there's nothing below it and any upgrade is really bad value for the money.


Hmmm, not always. Between at least 1998 and 2005, PCs were just better. Better CPUs.




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