Exactly. Each time you criticize the techno-fascist system that props up AI here, people downvote blindly without even trying to understand why authoritarian regimes love surveillance technologies like AI allows
A principal dogma on orange reddit is the neutrality of technology. Most people here are opposed to the nigh inevitable incipient use of AI in mass surveillance but don't think that that has any relationship to their use of AI (for example) as "Google that actually works." Whether they are right, I am not sure.
They lack the understanding that technology is not separate from society. Both go together, and CANNOT be analyzed without each other.
People who did engineering studies often think that "tech is pure", it's a simple "knowledge field" where something is "true or not". That's completely wrong. Tech is indissociable from society
But engineers don't understand that. Only researchers (and militants) do
Not my experience. Maybe it's your presentation that earns downvotes, not your message.
You can be a very principled person resisting and spotlighting norms you strongly disagree with, but how you do it tends to matter a lot. It makes the difference between people opening an ear to listen to you and reflexively pushing you away as an annoyance.
>Each time you criticize the techno-fascist system that props up AI here
Every time I criticize the Vikings on The Ultimate Vikings Enthusiast-and-Reenactment Society web forums, they downvote me too. It's ridiculous. Don't they have any integrity? Do they not believe in freedom of speech? One guy even started to rant about how the subforum's topic was specifically about a torment where the vikings would cut out of a man's tongue with a red hot knife... what does that have to do with my first amendment rights? just unbelievable.
If you think that people working in tech shouldn't be capable of criticizing their own domain, and taking a step back to understand what they're helping build, I can't do much for you
Where did you get that idea? Capability isn't in question. Intelligent, well-informed on the subject, positioned to see issues, problems, and drawbacks first. They spend most of their waking hours chewing over every tiny detail.
They just don't want to. It'd be like asking a paleontologist why they hate dinosaurs. And if you can't see that, then I don't know how to explain it to you in a way that will ever make sense. On 4chan, they'd say something along the lines of "not your army", and that goes the same here. We're not your army to mobilize against AI. Nothing will ever change that. Somehow though, you think our positions are reversed, but they're not. I'm comfortable here, I'm comfortable with the zeitgeist and everyone's attitude on the subject, it's you that seems to be in distress. I don't want anything from you and I don't need your help.
