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I think the problems with this article are well covered already. Just a suggestion for Joyent: articles like this are damaging to your excellent reputation, would suggest a thin layer of review before hitting the post button!

Some additional meat:

- The complaint about Mirage being written in OCaml is nonsense, it's trivial to create bindings to other languages, and in 40 years this never stopped us interfacing our e.g. Python with C.

- A highly expressive type/memory safe language is not "security through obscurity", an SSL stack written in such a language is infinitely less likely to suffer from some of the worst kinds of bugs in recent memory (Heartbleed comes to mind)

- Removing layers of junk is already a great idea, whether or not MirageOS or Rump represent good attempts at that. It's worth remembering that SMM, EFI and microcode still exist on every motherboard, using some battle-tested middleware like Linux doesn't get you away from this.

- Can't comment on the vague performance counterarguments in general, but reducing accept() from a microseconds affair to a function call is a difficult benefit to refute in modern networking software.



> an SSL stack written in such a language is infinitely less likely to suffer from some of the worst kinds of bugs in recent memory (Heartbleed comes to mind)

While you are right about OCaml being safer than C, Heartbleed was a pretty lame bug, it doesn't even give an attacker remote code execution. Something like CVE-2014-0195 is far more dangerous than Heartbleed but it didn't have a marketing name and large amounts of press coverage.


> While you are right about OCaml being safer than C, Heartbleed was a pretty lame bug, it doesn't even give an attacker remote code execution.

But it did give the attacker your server's private keys. And client private data.


A bug in DTLS will not get attention because people don't run DTLS.


Yea probably a poor choice of a OpenSSL vulnerability, I was assuming this was on by default even when using TLS like lot's of other OpenSSL features but then I found this line, "Only applications using OpenSSL as a DTLS client are affected."[1]

CVE-2012-2110 is probably a better choice.

[1]: https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv/20140605.txt


CVE-2012-2110 is probably a better choice.

From the openssl advisory[0], "In particular the SSL/TLS code of OpenSSL is not affected.".

[0] - https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv/20120419.txt




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